Cringeworthy conversations between Donald Trump and Howard Stern emerge: “They’re standing there with no clothes”

I hope you’re keeping count, because I’ve long lost my way. This week, yet another Donald Trump clip has surfaced, showing the sitting president toeing the line between creepy and illegal.

Back in the heady days around the turn of the century — when Trump had nothing better to do than fly to Jeffrey Epstein’s island and doodle his signature in the form of women’s pubic hair — he also appeared in the media, showing off his talents as a businessman.

Take the interview with Barbara Walters, for example, where she points out that he was “on the verge of bankruptcy” and “bailed out by the banks.” Or the time he was caught on camera saying, “I’m going to be dating her,” while looking at a 10-year-old girl.

“I’d have no trouble“... ”I have no age"

OK, scratch that. Let’s be fair and not focus solely on his biggest car crashes. Let’s talk about the interview with Howard Stern, who was happy to chat with Trump about everything from business in the boardroom to business under the covers: “Do you think you could now be banging 24-year-olds?” Stern asked. “Oh, absolutely. I’d have no trouble,” the future president responded.

The question of an age limit came up. Normally, an “age limit” refers to a maximum — the oldest someone might be and still be seen as a viable sexual partner. So why did Trump look down the age spectrum? Clearly, no one was asking about a minimum. Trump was 60 at the time, and the previous question concerned 24-year-olds. Nobody mentioned children or underage sex. Nobody brought up anyone younger than 24. Only Trump did.

“If I- No, no, I have no age… I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds," he said.

For what it’s worth, Trump was referring to former Rep. Mark Foley, a Republican who resigned that year after sending sexually explicit messages to underage teenage boys who were working as Congressional pages. Curiously, as pointed out by The Daily Beast, Foley was later spotted sitting directly behind Trump at a 2016 rally in Florida, in a section reserved by Trump campaign staff.

But that is far from the end of the questions about whether Trump actually walked in on girls as they prepared for pageants. In a later interview with Howard Stern, Trump said, “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready. And you know, there are no men around… I’m inspecting it, you know, I’m inspecting… They’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredibly attractive women, so I sort of get away with things like that.” However, in this case, he was referring to Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants, where the contestants are adults. Whether that makes it any less creepy is for you to decide.

But the underage question did not arise out of nowhere. In 2016, U.S. Rep. Ron Kind (D-Wis.) reignited the conversation when he publicly remarked, “I was just reading on the way over here this morning about how Trump would walk into the Miss Teen USA dressing room, where all these 15- and 16-year-olds were completely naked — just walking right in on them.” He was referring to reports Buzzfeed had collected and published from four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant. They said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

“I remember putting on my dress quickly because I thought, ‘Oh my God, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA. PolitiFact also adds that “Billado said she told Ivanka Trump about Donald Trump entering the room while the girls were changing their clothes. Billado remembers Ivanka answering, ‘Yeah, he does that.’” The outlet adds that Trump’s team denies all allegations.

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